Wild Silver Bay with Socks?

[Baranduin Brewster]

Just to verify that this is a Silver Bay (it does have black on the lower legs along with socks and a black muzzle). I'm aware that silver does show on the feathers if a horse has them, but that shows up with the cornet band and fetlock points peing silver, this is a new one for me. Does anyone else have any others like this.

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Then bred out this one too, the socks are not as prominent, but still there. Lacks the full silver mane/tail, but both look mixed silver and black (possible guard hairs?).

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[BlackOak2]

Just to verify that this is a Silver Bay (it does have black on the lower legs along with socks and a black muzzle). I'm aware that silver does show on the feathers if a horse has them, but that shows up with the cornet band and fetlock points peing silver, this is a new one for me. Does anyone else have any others like this.



Then bred out this one too, the socks are not as prominent, but still there. Lacks the full silver mane/tail, but both look mixed silver and black (possible guard hairs?).

I agree, silver bay, could even be silver wild bay. Most of mine appears on my flaxens. Let's see if I can locate any like yours...

I have this one, affected by pangare as well as flaxen, but the flaxen legs are quite obvious:



This one at 1 year, shows the flaxen (no pangare on him), although as he grew, he did develop feathers.
http://www.horseworldonline.net/horse/profile/1089970


It seems that's all I have anymore. I used to have a couple silver bays floating around in my one herd, but I'm working them back to being grulla, so they're all but gone. But it is a very nice expression.

[Baranduin Brewster]

It seems that's all I have anymore. I used to have a couple silver bays floating around in my one herd, but I'm working them back to being grulla, so they're all but gone. But it is a very nice expression.

I'm wondering if the white socks on the bays is linked to the Dun gene (that seems to be the only fit right now). It cannot be linked to the Silver gene as, I have a few non silver bays with socks. So, far I have only seen it on upright manes. I will continue to update this, as I breed more out/train the ones up that I already have. See if I can produce the socks on another color morph.

Flaxen Chestnut with upright mane (with feather points).

MFI American Shetland ♀


MFI American Shetland ♀



More Bay Action

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[BlackOak2]

It seems that's all I have anymore. I used to have a couple silver bays floating around in my one herd, but I'm working them back to being grulla, so they're all but gone. But it is a very nice expression.

I'm wondering if the white socks on the bays is linked to the Dun gene (that seems to be the only fit right now). It cannot be linked to the Silver gene as, I have a few non silver bays with socks. So, far I have only seen it on upright manes. I will continue to update this, as I breed more out/train the ones up that I already have. See if I can produce the socks on another color morph.

Not linked to the dun gene that I've found. I've been a bit lazy about finishing up my dun study. Although there are dun markings that lighten the legs:

They do not stretch down to the coronet and darken as they extend upward, rather they are lightest on the back of the ankle and darken as they stretch up and down.

This one is an excellent example of flaxen:


And I found that they do not fully encompass the bottom of the leg like pangare:


But with bay's and browns, even then, the pangare has trouble encompassing the leg bottoms:



I think Silverine has been studying this as well...
Here it is, perhaps the first page or two may enlighten you a little more. We have seen it before, but she and I were talking about the plume and not the legs:
http://www.horseworldonline.net/forum/v ... =8&t=10222

However, in your case I'm still convinced it's connected to the silver gene, just a rare expression, and in fact, it could be connected to certain genes directly related to feathering. Like rare on rare, recessive on recessive. We still don't know all the genes this game carries or how they interact. So I could be wrong.
It always comes down to the question of how can it be proved or disproved to be related to one specific gene or much more difficult, the combination of a specific set of genes.

[Kingsley]

This is fascinating. Thank you everyone for sharing.