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Nightsong
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How genetics work?

Post by Nightsong »

So, i have been wondering, i am starting to "Experiment" with breeding.
And i understand N-O-T-H-I-N-G.
I am confused on how i get what i get, and how to kinda "predict" what i can get, do the foal images change when they grow up? and if so, at what age?
Father http://www.horseworldonline.net/horse/profile/161004
Mother http://www.horseworldonline.net/horse/profile/207
Son http://www.horseworldonline.net/horse/profile/292350

Another even more confusing example
Father http://www.horseworldonline.net/horse/profile/835278 (Black)
Mother http://www.horseworldonline.net/horse/profile/835343 (Dark)
Daughterhttp://www.horseworldonline.net/horse/profile/835348
In this case, i got those two together for a dark color, was it just bad luck, or some genetics i am not understanding?
livid-silver
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Re: How genetics work?

Post by livid-silver »

The second foal will go bay as he ages I suspect. Many of my bay foals have been born a chestnut colour, but darkened up with age. You can already see the black legs starting to come through, whether he roans out or not is yet to be seen.

The first foal, I would say is bay with Pangaré, which would make sense for that cross. Sire has got the Pangaré gene, dam I would say is Bay Roan. So foal gets Pangaré from sire, but misses out on the cream+champange, inherits the black and agouti gene from mum, but missed out on roan, giving you a Pangaré bay foal :)
Scythian
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Re: How genetics work?

Post by Scythian »

Hello there. Rascal's a good colt. Nice to see one of Solar Power's sons.

About Rascal's color/pattern, he shows traits from both parents. I would describe him as "Bay Pangaré". His coat shades noticably from topline to belly -- that's the Pangaré trait common in Belgians. He's Bay like his dam.

In this game, horses may darken all over with age. Another thing is that the foal coat color often changes at about one year. Rascal is past that, however; when I saw him, 1 year plus 4.5 months. He may darken but I'm pretty sure the basic characteristics will remain. (One of Solar's sons, Coffee [http://www.horseworldonline.net/horse/profile/418419], changed from an apparent Red Roan at birth to a dramatic Blue Roan as a yearling.)

There is a lot about Horse Colors in our Forums. For a good start, see "Guides and How-To" --> "Extensive User Guide". This explains many things, including how to take Gallery photos, which provide a record of development. The "Horse Colours" link takes you to "Horse Colours: Names and Pictures" in the "What Colour is My Horse?" forum. Also in "What Colour ..." is "Horse Colors: Quick Guide by Ancient Breed": this lists the color genetics for each of the Adoption Center breeds.

I'll make some preliminary comments on Unnamed Horse #835348 (pretty filly!). Stripes, being an AC Tarpan, is Bay Dun. (Some pure Tarpans have considerable reddish shading or body lines.) UH 835348 is also Bay Dun, with some additional redness. Nightmare looks simply black but can be carrying a Chestnut gene. North African Barbs have the most complicated color genetics of the 9 AC breeds.

In general, Tarpans and Przewalski Horses have powerful genes that can show up in foals and grandfoals. I have a Grade Mare who analyzes 5/5 for Tarpan like her paternal granddam -- despite the other GPs being West African Barb, Forest Horse, and Arabian.

Have fun with the game! And thanks for breeding to Solar.

Best wishes,
Scythian :D
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