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Arabian x North African Barb

Post by Haze Farms »

So I am attempting to create a cross so that I can proceed with a Thoroughbred creation. All of my Arab or NAB mares have foaled Baladi's. Can this breed be used as a NAB x ARAB? If not, how do I get around this?

Thanks in advance!

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Re: Arabian x North African Barb

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Sorry, they aren't equivalent. The breed "recipes" must be followed exactly; the only equivalancies are things like (Arabian x North African Barb) = (North African Barb x Arabian). Baladis are their own breed.

(Arabian x NAB) is actually far more useful for breeding (appears in many more "recipes"). Sometimes they are for sale: see the recent Guides and How-To topic "Search for an Exact Cross" -- Raikit has it exactly right. Just remember to check the "Exact Cross" box.
http://www.horseworldonline.net/forum/v ... 466#p44466

There's this filly at my place, "NAB x Arabian". She's only 2 years 5 months old. She's small, expected mature height about 13.3, if that fits with your other prospects. I've posted her as "Offers Only" and will give you preference (will be available until the end of July); I'd like $200 for her, if she's any help. (And if not that's OK too.)
"Reinette" http://www.horseworldonline.net/horse/profile/225123

If you still want to DIY, the good news is that Baladis have a very narrow set of specifications: 14.0 - 15.1 h, Build Very Light to Light, Body size 0% - 25%, and Type 100% to 70% Horse. A "made from scratch" cross, Arabian x NAB, both parents from the Adoption Center, sometimes fails to result in a Baladi, even though these specs are much like both parent breeds.
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<<BUT NOWADAYS>> there are Arabian stallions for public breeding who are far, far outside the height range.

Here's a tall guy: "The Day Has Just Begun", 19.3 h
http://www.horseworldonline.net/horse/profile/906415

Here's a little one: "DWM|ЯR Toy Talent" 33 inches
http://www.horseworldonline.net/horse/profile/465369

Even if your NAB mare is 14.0 to 15.1, I bet breeding to either of these fellows would give you a Not-Baladi.
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The reverse is possible, though not as extreme. There are 2 purebred NABs listed at less than 14.0 and there are 71 taller than 15.1.
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The Thoroughbred specs : 15.0 - 16.3 h, Build Very Light to Medium Light, Body size 15% - 35%, and Type 85% to 65% Horse.

:) There, I hope some of that's useful!
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Re: Arabian x North African Barb

Post by Haze Farms »

Very informative! Thank you very much. I will check out your cross and offer if she will help.

Thanks again!! :)
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