Welsh Ponies and Cobs

[reyn]

Yay, finally got some Welsh Cobs . I've had to mix a lot of Beligian blood through my stock to produce heavier ponies and some feathering, but I've now bred a few fillies that I'm pleased with the look of;



I've placed the sire on stud. He's a Spanish Barb x Norfolk with a proven record of producing Welsh Cobs and he's been bred to be heavy and lightly feathered in keeping with what a Welsh Cob should look like. I also have on stud a Hackney x Welsh Mountain Pony stud who again has had a bit of Belgian blood added to make him stockier (sadly no feathering ), a Hackney and a Welsh Mountain Pony. If you search my brand .Cc. all my studs will come up .

[LittleLottie]

I want to help if possible! Would love to be able to make the American Shetland, but I need Welshies in order to proceed with that, and create other breeds from the Shetland.

[Rodeo_Ace]

I'm going to join in on the conversation now.

I'm currently working on breeding Welsh Cobs up from scratch, I want to produce a purely Buckskin herd. (Because I own a Buckskin Welsh Cob in real life). This is a huge project! I could believe all the breeding steps required! Does anyone have any advise to help with this program??

[Djeraya]

I am just throwing in that when breeding purely buckskins with each other you will always get at least bays and perlinos, and that is if the buckskins are homozygous for A and E genes - if not you will also get chestnuts, black, palomino etc etc.
So, a buckskin has one cream gene on bay base coat; assuming you have homozygous horses, breeding a perlino and a bay is a guaranteed buckskin; but breeding two buckskins together will result in 50 % chance for buckskin and 25 % each for bay and perlino.
That's the first thing. Having homozygous bay base (E/E A/A) would be good for the project. If a bay horse has bay parents and bay progeny, possibly for several generations, it has a high chance of being homozygous. Tarpans and Przewalskis have always a natural bay base, although often diluted by a lot of sooty and dun, so that they do not look really bay.

[Rodeo_Ace]

Teehee! Yes exactly. This is why it is an interesting battle, the animals I have now are mixes of bays and perlinos. I am relatively knew to breeding for color my expertise has more to do with conformation for show quality so this is an interesting thing to try and learn.

[flrancho]

I'm considering breeding some of these guys from foundation stock to strengthen the lines. A Welsh Cob was the very first horse I ever rode when I was little, so I have a soft place for them.

[Rodeo_Ace]

I got my very first filly and the months of selective breeding has been really for not... I have a huge selective breeding program breeding only for the best Cobs and a Grade horse mare from my Clydesdale program produced the best Welsh Cob so far. It's funny! I hope my selective program will be able to match my random mare.

Half Welsh Cob 5/5 -- COI: 6.96%
[ЯR] Windsong

This filly seems as strong as average. This filly runs about average, speed-wise. We won't know for a while, but looks like she's got a decent amount of stamina. This filly walks in a perfect manner. This filly has an average pace. This filly's balance is average. This filly isn't very agile nor is she stiff. This filly is pretty bright.

[Rodeo_Ace]

I am trying to breed more Norfolk Trotters because the Spanish Barb part of the Welsh Cob is extremely difficult and requires me to go more further back than going on the Norfolk Trotter side. If needed I will breed some more Spanish Barbs but in this case I'd rather not if not needed. We want new blood we may need to go back to the beginning, which I am already on! We can move there if you want just post your reply there and I'll check back there.

I have been doing the same, even adding some Clydesdale blood into my lines. Which, ironically, has produced better Cobs than my breeding lines. It's really good that you are introducing new blood, anything to keep the lines fresh and clean.

[SeaJones6400]

Okay! Lemme know if you have any tips, because I'm still pretty new to this game and still trying to understand it

[Rodeo_Ace]

Anytime, I have my strengths but there are still allot of things that I don't understand.