Unknown Global Breeds

[meganamber]

I've seen some shared interest in trying to recreate currently extinct/inactive game breeds, plus creating the first of these. Personally I'm considering starting a month-long contest for players to take on a breed they haven't heard of from Africa, Asia, or South America (considering most of our players are English-speakers, I figure this would be an educational challenge). Possibly just any breed with less than 100 horses in game (maybe 50, 25, 10, or 0 depending on difficulty people want). For simpler breed recipes, from "scratch" (store bought) would be interesting, but I think overall the idea would be to let everyone set their own difficulty level based on their skill level and just try to boost the number and knowledge of the least popular breeds in game. What are people's thoughts on this?

Side note: I gathered up internet articles on African/Asian/S. American rare breeds that are included in game, including Russian/Asian breeds, if anyone would like my stash lol.

I think this is a great idea!

[DianaWarriorPrincess]

I was working to bring back the Cape Horse, Boerperd and Vlaamperd breeds from South Africa! But I'm deactivating shortly so I'm actually looking for up to 2 people to take this project for free, I have 2 separate breeding lines in progress and I can split them up between 2 people (or not) if there is an interest. Please ping me if you want them, the project is going really well actually.

This is a lovely goal. I'm sad to see you're deactivating, but that's life I suppose. I hope others can help you take this up. What is the timeline here? I'm currently breeding all of my herds down to more manageable levels of purebreds for storage, rather than keeping a lot of outcross animals too if they're not currently active herds. I'm also using my in-game savings for expansion in both active and storage accounts. I could have space for one of these South African breeds, or maybe one line? How many horses are we talking about?

Awesome! Thanks! I have one line of 5 parent breed horses to create Vlaamperds only, and a bigger herd (12 I think) capable of making Cape Horses, Boerperds and Vlaamperds.

[Hilayla]

My current goal is the Manipuri Pony. Manipur is a province in India a little south of Tibet. Manipuris were the original polo ponies but modern rules have changed the height reqs of the horses so that they are no longer allowed to compete. When the English occupied India, they used to say that the Manipuri had iron hooves that never needed shoes. They are endangered in real life as well.

That's a wonderful goal. Are you trying from scratch, or using others' lines? A useful breed two, as it creates two other breeds on my list.

The overall idea would be that, within a month, you'd get one 5/5 Manipuri Pony from scratch or not from scratch either five 5/5 or 10 Manipuri Ponies overall. I'm considering "bonus" awards for avoiding high COI and trying to meet IRL breed standard, like having the proper colors or whatnot.

I definitely do need to consider player levels in this contest however, as the more difficult to create breeds would be difficult for experienced players, much less new players. So I might need to organize breed options by how many generations they are away from store bought or how rare the breeds that create them are, but difficulty is also somewhat subjective.

I'm starting from scratch. I'm still trying to work out how many horses of each of the founding breeds to get enough blood to keep coi down. The horses I've adopted so far aren't the best and a couple have reds but it just adds to the challenge of creating good horses. I've had my first pure Tarpan foal who unfortunately didn't turn out so great, and I'm waiting on my Tarpan x Prewalski foal but I think I need a few more horses. I'm going to have to start stalking the market for good adopted horses.

As for the contest, I would probably try to divide up the breeds into categories based upon how many different breeds you would need to create it. A simple cross needing only two or three breeds would be in different category than one requiring 10 breeds. I can't remember if you had mentioned doing it that way or not right my head at this moment. If starting from scratch you would need to create not just one horse of each breed but possible several because one wouldn't want to breed to closely. My mind is starting to try to math this out so I'm going end it here.

[Shiva]

I think this sounds like fun. I don't know how useful I would be since I'm new, but I like this idea.

Everyone is welcome to join! I'm considering different "levels" relating to player levels/experience so the competition can be fair.

I have a dongalo I am using for breeding the western Sudan pony, im also working on yilis and national showhorses as far as small population horses go, thats all, I have some more projects with larger population breeds

[Shiva]

Everyone is welcome to join! I'm considering different "levels" relating to player levels/experience so the competition can be fair.

I have a dongalo I am using for breeding the western Sudan pony, im also working on yilis and national showhorses as far as small population horses go, thats all, I have some more projects with larger population breeds

On my alternate account I also bred an exmoor pony first try! I was pretty excited!

[Hilayla]

I have not even signed up for a second account yet. This one keeps me plenty busy so far. Of course I'm still reading all the help and guides since I haven't been here long.

Shiva, I'm not keeping that Exmoor, it's up for offers right now but if you want it, I could send it to you.

[Kingsley]

This is a lovely goal. I'm sad to see you're deactivating, but that's life I suppose. I hope others can help you take this up. What is the timeline here? I'm currently breeding all of my herds down to more manageable levels of purebreds for storage, rather than keeping a lot of outcross animals too if they're not currently active herds. I'm also using my in-game savings for expansion in both active and storage accounts. I could have space for one of these South African breeds, or maybe one line? How many horses are we talking about?

Awesome! Thanks! I have one line of 5 parent breed horses to create Vlaamperds only, and a bigger herd (12 I think) capable of making Cape Horses, Boerperds and Vlaamperds.

Thanks so much. Let me work on lowering my numbers and hopefully I can get back to you. I can definitely take the smaller line.

[Kingsley]

I'm starting from scratch. I'm still trying to work out how many horses of each of the founding breeds to get enough blood to keep coi down. The horses I've adopted so far aren't the best and a couple have reds but it just adds to the challenge of creating good horses. I've had my first pure Tarpan foal who unfortunately didn't turn out so great, and I'm waiting on my Tarpan x Prewalski foal but I think I need a few more horses. I'm going to have to start stalking the market for good adopted horses.

As for the contest, I would probably try to divide up the breeds into categories based upon how many different breeds you would need to create it. A simple cross needing only two or three breeds would be in different category than one requiring 10 breeds. I can't remember if you had mentioned doing it that way or not right my head at this moment. If starting from scratch you would need to create not just one horse of each breed but possible several because one wouldn't want to breed to closely. My mind is starting to try to math this out so I'm going end it here.

Oh yes, I'd definitely want to make levels based on how difficult each breed would be to make. I wouldn't want newbie players accidentally taking on a really difficult breed b/c they don't know how difficult it would be. One thing I definitely need to do over the weekend is sort that out lol. I'm hoping I'll have everything ready by the 15th, but my health isn't great right now, so we'll see. In the least, everything will be ready to go for a month long challenge soon.

[Kingsley]

Everyone is welcome to join! I'm considering different "levels" relating to player levels/experience so the competition can be fair.

I have a dongalo I am using for breeding the western Sudan pony, im also working on yilis and national showhorses as far as small population horses go, thats all, I have some more projects with larger population breeds

Good luck with your projects. I'm sure you could definitely join in on the contest with the Western Sudan Pony and Yili.

[Kingsley]

Levels are determined only by book value (number of generations). Individual breeds within level may vary with difficulty otherwise. Level 1 would be store bought ($171), Level 2 would be a direct cross between store bought ($214), and we start from there in this competition. There was accidentally a low number Level 2 breed, the Ob ($213), which could be asked for if you are an incredibly new player.

AFRICA

LEVEL 3 ($297)
Riwoche

LEVEL 5 ($635)
Nigerian

LEVEL 6 ($846)
Poney Mousseye

LEVEL 8 ($1,267)
Cape Horse
Fleuva

LEVEL 9 ($1,689)
Basuto Pony

LEVEL 10 ($1,900)
M’Bayar ($1,900)

LEVELS 10+
Fouta ($2,322)
Dongola ($6,540)
Djerma ($7,384)
Western Sudan Pony ($7,384)
Sudan Country Bred ($8,016)
Boerperd ($8,860)
Tawleed ($8,860)
Calvinia Horse ($9,493)
Nooitgedacht Pony ($10,336)
Vlaamperd ($10,336)

ASIA

LEVEL 4 ($424)
Chinese Guoxia
Chinese Pony
Kirgiz
Tchenarani

LEVEL 5 ($635)
Altai
Baluchi
Bashkir
Batak
Cheju
Deli
Kabarda
Karabair
Sumba
Tibetan Pony
Timor Pony
Yakut

LEVEL 6 ($846)
Bhutia
Flores Pony
Hokkaido
Jaf
Sandalwood
Soviet Heavy Draft
Spiti
Sumbawa

LEVEL 7 ($1,057)
Darashouri
Hequ
Java
Karabakh
Kazakh
Manipuri Pony
Misaki Pony
Tokara
Yonaguni

LEVEL 8 ($1,267)
Burma Pony
Indian Country Bred
Tiashu Horse
Zaniskari

LEVEL 9 ($1,689)
Bali
Iomud
Noma Pony

LEVEL 10 ($1,900)
Kiso ($1,900)
Miyako Pony ($1,900)

LEVELS 10+
Lokai ($2,322)
Pahlavan ($4,220)
Sanhe ($4,220)
Karachia ($5,275)
Kustanai ($7,384)
Xilingol ($7,384)
Ban-ei ($8,016)
Russian Heavy Draft ($14,133)
Yanqi ($14,133)
Yili ($14,133)
New Kirgiz ($16,242)
Budyonny ($18,562)
Kushum ($20,671)

S. AMERICA

LEVEL 9 ($1,689)
Peruvian Paso

LEVEL 10 ($1,900)
Criollo

LEVELS 10+
Chilean Corralero ($2,322)
Nordestino ($2,322)
Campolina ($13,078)
Pantaneiro ($15,187)
Mangalarga Paulista ($16,242)