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arabian x turkmene cross not producing akhal-tekes!
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arabian x turkmene cross not producing akhal-tekes!
Post by starhide »
I've now bred two foals to two different sets of parents, one where the mother is Arab and the sire Turk, and one the other way around- all purebred- but both foals are just listed as "Arabian x Turkmene" and not Akhal-Teke ;u; What am I doing wrong?!
I have the Akhal-Teke eval book and unfortunately both foals are only 4* (too tall) but is that really what's preventing them from being listed as ATs? Do I just have to keep trying til I get a 5* and THEN will it be an AT?!
Thanks in advance!!
I have the Akhal-Teke eval book and unfortunately both foals are only 4* (too tall) but is that really what's preventing them from being listed as ATs? Do I just have to keep trying til I get a 5* and THEN will it be an AT?!
Thanks in advance!!
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Re: arabian x turkmene cross not producing akhal-tekes!
Post by BlackOak2 »
You only ever get a chance of the new breed, never a guarantee. The closer you get both parents to being 5 star, the better chance you will have.starhide wrote:I've now bred two foals to two different sets of parents, one where the mother is Arab and the sire Turk, and one the other way around- all purebred- but both foals are just listed as "Arabian x Turkmene" and not Akhal-Teke ;u; What am I doing wrong?!
I have the Akhal-Teke eval book and unfortunately both foals are only 4* (too tall) but is that really what's preventing them from being listed as ATs? Do I just have to keep trying til I get a 5* and THEN will it be an AT?!
Thanks in advance!!
AC arabs and turkmenes generally pop out akhals on a regular basis, it just takes some breedings.
If you seem to be having a remarkably difficult time, you can look for mares or stallions (or a mare and a stallion) that are already confirmed akhal producers. It does seem that some horses throw new breeds more often than others. Sometimes it also helps to have a taller mare and cross her to a shorter stud (even if the mare and stud are outside acceptable height limits for the akhal). I have personally had born new breeds that were 'just' outside of height limits (for instance 14.1 when the cutoff is 14), but it's rare.
Keep trying.
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Post by starhide »
Huh! Definitely didn't know that.
Thanks so much! I guess I just gotta keep trying
Thanks so much! I guess I just gotta keep trying
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Post by Stormchase Stables »
Also try breeding an Arabian x Turkmene cross to another Arab x Turk cross. The foal will definitely be an Akhal-Teke.starhide wrote:Huh! Definitely didn't know that.
Thanks so much! I guess I just gotta keep trying
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Re: arabian x turkmene cross not producing akhal-tekes!
Post by Tjigra »
In my experience, it won't. I've bred two unsuccessful tries for Cleveland Bay together (one came out too tall, the other too small) - the result was a 5* Cleveland Bay, but was listed as a cross anyway.
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Post by Stormchase Stables »
What is the cross for a Cleveland Bay?Tjigra wrote:In my experience, it won't. I've bred two unsuccessful tries for Cleveland Bay together (one came out too tall, the other too small) - the result was a 5* Cleveland Bay, but was listed as a cross anyway.
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Re: arabian x turkmene cross not producing akhal-tekes!
Post by Tjigra »
Cleveland Bay is a 3 way cross, probably that's what makes the difference. [NAB x Arabian] x TB - I had followed the recipe and got two flukes, and then crossing the flukes I did get the 5*, but not the breed.
Anyway, [correct cross] x [correct cross] would only be the required breed if they get the 5*, not definitely.
Anyway, [correct cross] x [correct cross] would only be the required breed if they get the 5*, not definitely.
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Re: arabian x turkmene cross not producing akhal-tekes!
Post by Stormchase Stables »
Oh yes, that won't work. Only crosses like Arab x Turk or Arab x Boulonnais will work.Tjigra wrote:Cleveland Bay is a 3 way cross, probably that's what makes the difference. [NAB x Arabian] x TB - I had followed the recipe and got two flukes, and then crossing the flukes I did get the 5*, but not the breed.
Anyway, [correct cross] x [correct cross] would only be the required breed if they get the 5*, not definitely.
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